Welcome to friends with fertility, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of fertility, reproductive health, and all the emotional journeys that are in between.
I'm your host Elizabeth King of fertility expert dedicated to providing you with the knowledge, support, and inspiration you need on your path to parenthood.
Whether you're just starting out, exploring your options, or looking for solidarity and advice, we are here for you.
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Hey, everyone.
Thanks for joining us today.
I'm really thrilled to announce our guest today who is an Emmy award winning TV host and author, best known for her eight seasons on dancing with the stars and years on entertainment tonight.
At the age of 40, she was diagnosed with breast cancer.
And, of course, I'm sure as any of us would expect as a mom and a wife never sees that coming.
So I'm excited to talk to her about that today.
Rising from that challenge, she became a breast cancer Thriver, which I love seeing that word, a certified health coach and the author of the best selling book Your Healthy Healthy.
From that, she launched her subscription based membership community of the same name and wellness retreats with the next one happening very soon November 2022 in Utah.
As a health expert, you've seen her all over the place, the doctors, HLS, Morning Express, Home and Family, you name it.
She's everywhere.
Today, she's here to empower you with tools to feel even better and elevate your well-being to become your healthiest, healthy.
And, of course, as we all know, that is different for everybody.
So welcome, Samantha Harris.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much, Elizabeth, for having me and the amazing content that you are putting out for so many to be able to grow and thrive themselves.
So let's talk about all the ways that you're thriving, but first back to how is that getting that? I know the diagnosis of breast cancer being a mom and a wife.
I know for me doing my mammograms, I've always been on schedule with them because of family history.
Um, I had one time it come back abnormal, but I can never imagine what that would be, like, like, there's actually something there to be dealing with.
How I mean, was that, like, the biggest shock of your life or and how did you deal with that? So at 40, actually just before 40, I thought, you know, I'm gonna go get one of those mammogram things.
We set a baseline.
I'm in the healthiest shape of my life.
This is what I should do.
And my daughters were three and six at the time.
Uh, my husband and I were having just a wonderful time with my my career, his career, feeling on top of the world, and then blindsided.
Yeah.
I can imagine.
This diagnosis.
And so here's here's the crazier part of all of it.
Um, I wish to say that a breast cancer diagnosis was the crazy part of it.
Um, and unfortunately, that happened to one in eight women, uh, over the course of her lifetime.
And so it's a startling statistic when you really break it down.
And yet here I was feeling like that I was the pinnacle of health.
I've been on more than, you know, 11 or 12 different magazine covers for fitness or for health.
I worked out daily.
I ate what I thought was a healthy diet.
But the startling part of all of it was also the fact that I had a clear mammogram.
But eleven days later, I was changing after a workout.
And you know that sports bra is really constricting it to holding in.
So, yeah, you move the girls to the right, you move them to the left, you just push them around a little bit, let them be free, and there it was this lump that had never been there before.
And I thought this is so strange.
Elizabeth, I I immediately I didn't hesitate.
I called my OB GYN because she's the only one who ever touched my boobs besides my husband.
I didn't know you ever had a doctor to call.
And so she said, oh, you know what? Why don't you just come in with your concern? And she did a quick clinical exam.
She felt around.
She said, you know what? You're turning 40.
It's probably glandular.
This is what 40 looks like.
Welcome to 40.
And so, you know, I went on my way.
I thought, sure.
That makes perfect sense.
I'm healthy.
My mammogram was clear.
My doctor said it's good.
Bam.
Wash my hands of it, walked away feeling great.
And a month later, The lump was still there.
And I thought, you know, this this inner voice was just starting to get a little bit louder.
And so When was it painful at all or just a lump? Just a lump.
Just I no side effects, no pain, no discharge from the nipple, no denting, no nothing.
And so I thought, you know, I'll go get a second opinion, but it's not cancer.
So I'll see my internist.
He did the same.
Quick feel around clinical exam said, yeah, it's nothing.
If your word will keep an eye on it, sent me on my way.
And then before I knew it, it was the holidays, and it was New Year's.
And all of a sudden, I came up for air in four months had passed.
And that pesky freaking lump was still there.
And now that inner voice was screaming at me.
It was screaming so loudly and saying Samantha, how do these people know it's nothing if they're just watching it? So that's that's when I pursued even further.
And I went to see well, I said, well, gosh.
Who looked at breasts every day as their specialty.
Right.
That's who I wanna see.
Not realizing for a second.
The only doctors that do that are breast oncologists.
Right.
And so there I was at a breast cancer clinic looking, uh, you know, down at the the eyes of this doctor who is doing ultrasounds and a needle biopsy on me.
The story gets crazier.
You wanna keep hearing? Let's hear it.
Yeah.
And I, like, have goosebumps because there's so many aspects of advocating for yourself and listening to your own intuition and all of those things that I love so much that I just wanna point out.
Like, when that's knocking at your door, keep going.
Right? So you did.
Let's hear it.
Let's hear it.
Well, and and the thing of it is too is even this breast oncologist said, you know, if I were you in this same situation, I don't think I would have kept pursuing it because I think everyone else said it was fine.
And all the diagnostic tests came back.
Even the needle biopsy, even the ultrasounds, not detecting the cancer.
However, and this is this is also sort of the public service announcement beyond the PSA to say listen to your body, listen to your inner voice, and know your body and advocate for yourself but the other the other PSA to say, really make sure you see the best specialists you can.
So this oncologist listened to her inner voice.
And she said, you know, good news and bad news from the needle biopsy.
The good news is it's not cancer.
The headness is I don't know what it is.
Let's just take it out.
So I've never been cut into in my life and I said, you know what? Go ahead.
So, basically, you know, I did my my my my breasts have done what they needed to do.
They got me my husband, they fed my kids and nourished.
Um, I'm good to go.
She took did a lump back to me, took that lump out, came out of surgery still, not cancer.
So a week later, I went to the final pathology results consultation.
She looked at my incision.
I lost my husband at home, said, you stay with the kiddos.
I'll go do this.
Not a big deal.
And that's when we got the final pathology back.
And we found out not only was it ductal carcinoma in situ, which is breast cancer contained within the duct, not smart enough to get out of it, which is if you get it, that's really what you want.
But, unfortunately, we found that she took a little sample on the border that she thought was healthy tissue.
But again, listened to her gut.
And she said, I just need to take a sample.
I don't know why.
She said, I don't even know why I took a sample of it.
It looked like healthy tissue.
That sample was invasive breast cancer.
Wow.
So in that moment, my cancer journey began.
And what did that look like? So you get that news.
They're sitting across the desk from your doctor and you call your husband on the way home.
What do you do? Leave, like, what how does that play out? In a moment, the rush of adrenaline and anxiety coursing through my veins was something I had never felt.
It was like a high speed chase of vibrational like, literally, the vibrations that were so negative and powerful and and disconcerting that actually went on for weeks.
And, uh, I I couldn't talk.
I was getting texts because I couldn't no cell service in the basement of this oncology practice at the hospital.
And so finally, because I wasn't responding, and I was there for over two hours, my husband finally texted in all caps.
Are you okay? Which just crumpled me.
I just I I finally got out to where the parking lot was.
I got ahold of him and I I couldn't speak.
I just said, because I had to get home on a very busy freeway.
I'm living in Los Angeles.
The 405 Freeway is, you know, because you're in Orange County is a crazy freeway, and I had to get from Santa Monica all the way to the valley in one piece feeling like this.
And so I just simply said to him when he answered, I cannot talk.
I need you to grab tennis shoes at home for me and meet me at the park, where there's this golf course you can walk around.
Like, I was not gonna go home to give him this information.
When my three and six year old were gonna come running to the door to hug me is what I wanted more than anything, but I didn't wanna do it and crumble.
Oh my god.
I'm like trying so hard not to cry right now because I feel like all those emotions, I can't even imagine it.
And just even talking about it and I'm eight years out.
I am thriving.
I am healthier more vibrant and more energized than I have ever been.
But even just talking about it, all that emotion comes up, all those feelings, all those that I can feel just the vibrations in my body of that that anxiety starting to chorus and They've learned a lot of tools and fun to breathe and and really help mitigate that stress because that stress response is very harmful to our overall health and we can get into that.
But, uh, the end of this part of the story is when I finally saw my husband um, you know, he walked around the car to where I was standing and wrapped his arms around me.
And literally, I you see in the movies when someone's knees give out and they buckle and they crumble to the ground.
I didn't realize that actually That actually happened.
And I just crumbled in his arms.
And, um, yeah, it was, uh, we walked for about an hour, and we talked, and we talked through it, and was able to then go home and put on a smile and face my little girls.
And I'm happy I mean, you're here eight years later.
So happy ending.
We can kinda cut to that and and let everybody know that.
Uh, I mean, have you been cleared How often do you actually have to get tested to to say that you're in the in the clear, so to speak, or in recovery remission? So I consider myself cancer free.
Um, I had the I I opted for the a couple of different options.
I could have had a double mastectomy with, uh, a reconstruction or no reconstruction or a single mastectomy, or I could have had another lumpectomy with, uh, about six weeks of daily radiation.
Uh, I opted for a double mastectomy and reconstruction.
It was the right choice for me.
Uh, I opted out of chemo and radiation.
If anyone is listening and you have questions, go ahead d m me at samantha Harris TV, uh, on Instagram or Facebook.
Mostly Instagram is place though.
Um, Samantha Harris TV like television.
And I can give you the details of why I chose that and all that.
I don't wanna go into that here.
But, uh, but anyhow, uh, those were the choices that I made.
I'm very happy with those choices, and everybody's cancer is very individual.
And even if you feel like you have the same diagnosis as Lady a over here, it could be completely different from ladies b through z.
And so, uh, it it is a really individual decision.
But that's what I opted for for my surgery, for my treatment.
I was on a an estrogen blocking medication for seven and a half years.
We thought we were gonna go ten, but I had to go off it for some other side effects.
And, uh, when I was ready to go back on, my doctor said, you know what? You are eating.
And living and dealing with life in such a healthy way, you don't have to go back on that medication to keep up the good work.
And I will share some of those incredible ways to change and take power back and control your health and well-being the best way possible.
So let's hear those ways.
So and and also whether you're you have a a life changing diagnosis like that or not, or you're just to your point of breathing and the effect that that has on our nervous system and bringing our hortisol levels down and all of the things that are so beautiful that we have the power to affect change in our body.
What is what is some advice that you recommend to the people that are just trying to be their healthiest, healthy, and and what does that look like? Well, and I'm so glad you said it like that because I thought I was healthy.
Right? Here I was.
I was exercising every day.
I was eating my chicken breasts and my egg whites and my cheeseless pizza and my my rows of snack Well, sandwich cookies because they were low fat and my red vines because they were fat free.
Not realizing for one second what I was truly putting in my body.
So, look, I'm a journalist by training.
And so when I realized that I had no genetic link to my breast cancer, only five to ten percent of breast cancers are even hereditary.
That means if you're nine ninety nine to ninety ninety five percent of us who get breast cancer had no reason genetically forgetting it.
So what was it? And that that journalist in me that, okay.
I have to research.
And I learned it is what we are putting in on and around our body that affects our overall well-being.
That turns on or leaves off certain genetic code that we have that could lead to not just breast cancer, other cancers, diabetes, heart disease, autoimmune disorders, neurodegenerative disorders.
So I started to slowly and systematically make changes in my life.
But it can be so overwhelming that I was I thought I was healthy, and I realized I had to become my healthiest healthy, which is why the book is your healthiest healthy.
And my retreats are your healthiest healthy retreat.
And my Wellness communities, your healthiest healthy community, which is a a subscription based membership where I do a live coaching because I'm a certified health coach, a weekly live workout because I'm a certified trainer, and then I bring in a guest expert who are the top of the top in their field, and then I lead breath work every week as part of the membership.
So Oh, I love it.
Learning these tools, um, that I wanna share are really important.
And did that diagnosis kind of drive all this passion to to this direction of coaching and helping people serve them in this way to help them be their healthiest, or were you always kind of passionate about that pride? I always loved fitness.
I always loved, you know, I loved at I thought I loved healthy lifestyles, but I didn't really quite understand what that meant.
I think what it really meant to me was trying to figure out what it meant to eat healthfully and and work out.
Not realizing the holistic picture of wellness is beyond that.
Right? It's as you mentioned too, mitigating your stress, your levels of cortisol, and making sure that they are, uh, low because when we have high levels of cortisol in our body, it leads the inflammation that is the precursor to so much disease.
And so that is really essential to be able to get a handle on.
Um, in addition to that, and and that comes from whether sorry about that.
I'm tying a balloon for my daughter.
If you hear weird squeaking in the background, that's what's happening.
Here you go, babe.
Okay.
So And she's coming up with a very cool, uh, healthy recipe.
She's my she's my little chef, or mostly a baker.
And so she's coming up with a really cool new, uh, protein powder energy balls with peanut butter.
We have some chocolate chips in there.
But, anyway, okay.
I love sharing recipes too.
That's awesome.
Uh, so, uh, so she kinda slides in here with.
She knows her mom is working, but she's telling you, uh, she's 11 now.
So that's my little one.
So my girls who are three who are three and six, they're now 11 and almost 15.
And Wow.
I'm thriving.
So here are some of the changes that we can make in a day your daily life that you can start today doing and start with baby steps.
So the first thing is filling your plate at least half full of veggies at every meal.
So what does that look like? Okay.
So and here's why.
Most of us aren't getting the nutrients that we need and the nutrient density that we need.
Um, the micronutrients.
We think about the macros, the the protein, the carbs, the fat.
Right? That we need to look at all of the other micronutrients that are actually nourishing our body and giving us what we need.
Right? Yeah.
I was laughing when you said about the red vines and the this and the that.
I think that is very our generation of when we grow up with, like, everything.
It was free.
And we thought it was all healthy to have, you know, the fat free cream cheese and fat free pretzels and, you know, whatever.
And bringing in this actual nutrients was not a concept that we you know, our generation really had compared to now of like the whole foods and all of that sort of stuff.
So I True.
And and I used to think, um, fat was the f word to me.
A 100%.
Right? And right? I mean, oh my, first of all, I mean, I I love the taste of bread vines, but not only do they have high fructose corn syrup, a dub as a liquid death.
So one of the easiest things you guys can do right now that you won't even notice the difference is just look in your pantry, look in your fridge, turn everything around, read the ingredients label.
And if it has high fructose corn syrup, either chuck it right away or use it up and vowed never to buy it again because there are a lot of great alternatives without high fructose corn syrup.
So red vines have the high fructose corn syrup.
They also have the red dye number 40 and all these other rights.
So you're like, oh, my gosh.
What am I literally canceling my body on purpose? Why no.
It's it's so funny how now, like, it gross, those things just really grossed me out.
I'm like, How can we ever done that? You know? Exactly.
See, for my kids, now my dog sees a very busy household.
This is the thing about Zoom and working from home.
I love it, but some days, they just don't, you know, they they're usually real life.
It is real life.
It is indeed.
So, uh, so really, you know, and and those snackwell sandwich cookies were, like, the tastiest thing ever, but I wouldn't have one.
I would have the entire row.
And I didn't realize a detriment.
So for when we fill our plate, half full of veggies at every meal, and that could look like, you know, I was a a a yogurt.
I had animal protein, 21 out of 21 meals a day.
Pre cancer.
That meant, you know, yogurt or eggs in the morning, And the yogurt, by the way, it was usually laden with either fake sugars or sugar and, you know, all this other, and it wasn't organic.
So I wasn't at least getting, you know, grass fed organic dairy.
Um, and then I, you know, that that was my switch up from having cereal every morning.
Uh, that was really just a sugar bomb because it was not even a good cereal, um, even though it had the word smart in it, it wasn't smart.
And then so what so what looking, you know, having that veggies in the morning, it could mean a tofu scramble or even even organic eggs pasture raised with a lot of veggies, or my go to every single day is a smoothie or an acai bowl chock full of, you know, berries and leafy greens and chia and flaxseed and all these other matcha green tea powder, all these cancer fighters and powerful things.
Lunch could be a big salad with beans, dinner could be, you know, black bean burger.
It could be, uh, a bean based pasta.
Again, trying to shift a little bit away from as much animal meat because we have just a lot of studies out there that show that unless you are having it in small portions and really well sourced, um, and not really every single day there, that's about the healthiest way to have animals you're going to.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for sharing that because I think back to your your healthiest is so often people think I'm gonna eat all these things because it it that's what they say is healthy, but it actually, for your specific body body causes inflammation.
For example, for me with eggs, we often talk about fertility diets and eggs is one of the top things on a fertility diet.
And my body is super sensitive to that.
So it would just cause havoc and inflammation in my system.
Yet most people would think, oh, that's something health to have.
So really tuning into, I think, your own body and getting these ideas from people like Samantha of what does a Black bean burger look like? And what what are some options? Because I think people don't even know where to start sometimes of What does that look like to change up my diet and not have to do a full overhaul and feel like I'm going vegan or something super extreme? Right.
Because it doesn't have to be extreme.
Right? It doesn't have to be extreme.
It doesn't, you know, by the way, it isn't about a macro bias.
Dietic diet or a vegan diet or a keto or a paleo.
Right? I think we have to figure out what's right for us as you said.
We're all bio individuals.
But if you are choosing animal products, it is essential to make sure that they are sourced properly.
That means always going organic.
If it's poultry, it is pasture raised.
If it is beef, it is, um, grass fed and really making sure that you're not having an eight ounce portion.
It's maybe a two ounce portion, more of a condiment than a conda, you know, the condiment idea.
And I Yes.
Stole that from from, I think Mark Hyman or one of those other wonderful gurus in there.
Um, but thinking of it as as as more of a side where the veggies are the star of the show.
And it it's not about what you can't eat.
Really, I want you to reframe it and everybody.
Think about it as all the things you can eat, all the things that you your body wants, that it's asking for that you might not be giving it.
So you're really adding in and by adding in, you end up crowding out the stuff, the chips, and the junk, and the processed, and the packaged.
The the industrial made foods.
Those are the ones you really wanna watch out for.
And I feel like with your kids, I know for my kids as well, I'm hyper sensitive about that.
And there are so many great options now that of things that they can have that's not coming in a box that they will enjoy too.
So I think just finding somebody who can offer those creative ideas of, like, you were talking about these protein balls could love that sort of stuff and love to make them too, right, to get them involved in the process.
A 100%.
And look, I'm the first one to admit it is really hard with the kids.
Right? For me, it the education came first.
And when I understood the why I should be eating this way, it made everything else make sense.
For kids, they don't care.
And they think that they're invincible, and I think they're gonna live forever, which Scottish willing, you know, will be able to get them to live a very long, healthy life.
But it's cringe worthy what a lot of their friends are eating.
And there's no judgment.
Look, I grew up on McDonald's and Burger King, and but then I say but then I got cancer.
So I'm not saying so so but gave me cancer.
I'm not.
I swear.
I'm not.
I'm, but I'm, my point is, and and those, you know, those big fast food place, they're trying to come up with the trends and they're offering alternatives.
But honestly, even the beyond meats of the world, and we have those types of substitutes in our house maybe once every other week or so.
But even those because they're manufactured and processed so much also come with a warning label a little bit that's not really actually on it.
So you wanna just be careful going from as many whole foods as you can.
Ideally, but imagine your stomach hungry and empty.
And if you were to take 200 calories of straight up oil, just say oil.
It's gonna give you a lot of fat, and it's only gonna fill your stomach a very tiny bit.
Maybe an eighth.
Let's say that say that same 200 calories and you grab a piece of beef.
And even if it's grass fed, it's arguably the best quality highest quality.
It's gonna fill your stomach up maybe a quarter of the way.
Let's say you take 200 calories of broccoli, romaine, whatever.
Imagine all the veggies you love.
It's gonna fill that entire circle, 100, that entire empty circle of your belly.
So what ends up happening is you get the satiety hormone to trick to to click on the lectin, clicks on, and it says, I'm good.
I'm full.
And you don't go on that hunt to fill your stomach up more because when you leave your stomach partially empty from the foods that don't fill it and give it the nutrients it needs.
You're the that craving.
It's real.
It's not it's not your fault, first of all.
Step away from the guilt.
Uh, I just can't control my cravings.
It is a biological fact that you need to give your body more of the nutrients it's desiring.
And when you do and look, by the way, once it's full all the way, your brain might say I still wanna buy some of those chips.
And if you do, okay, fine.
But at that point, you've already given your body all the nutrients it needs, you're probably not gonna eat the entire bag of chips.
You might have a handful of them because you're really going to already find that satiety.
So that's just one part of the holistic health picture.
The other is getting toxins out of your makeup products your skin care, uh, your, you know, all your personal care routine, and even your cleaning supplies.
Yeah.
I love that.
So if somebody's picking up your book, what can they expect to find within that book that can help them along their path of becoming healthier.
Well, it's really a comprehensive action plan, and you can drop into any chapter.
Let's say you're like, I just I'm really interested in how to clean up my my food right now, my nutrition.
So you can jump into that chapter.
You can read it, of course, cover to cover.
But let's say I just you know what? I don't even I I eat pretty well.
I'm alright.
I don't need the exercise chapter.
I'm I'm doing great on my exercise.
I don't need motivation there.
But I don't know where to start when it comes to my makeup.
Like, how do I even know what to look out for? You drop into that chapter.
Um, when it comes to skin care and makeup, the European Union bans bans over 1,400 ingredients or chemical substances as either known or possible carcinogens or endocrine disruptors.
And so you guys, those endocrine disruptors are the things that mess with our hormones to the tune of a whole host of diseases we don't want.
Um, not to mention, I'm sure fertility issues as well.
Absolutely.
Actually, I not I I, yeah, I under a 100% note fertility also falls into that.
So when we look at the European Union or even Japan who ban, you know, over a 1,400 chemicals, The United States up until a couple of years ago, only banned 11.
I think we might be up to 30.
Go USA.
Yes.
I love baby steps, I guess.
Yeah.
I'm grateful to be an American, but, boy, are we lagging? And there has been a bill in Congress Suck since 2015.
That is the Personal Care, uh, Protection Act that would make companies have to be more transparent about the chemicals that they're putting in our products.
So we have to just be empowered consumers And so we can do that.
If you guys have any questions when it comes to skin care or even supplementation, our vitamins are, you know, different supplements were popping, our protein powders, our greens powders, DMMe, Samantha Harris TV, but I I can absolutely very easily give you my recommendations and different, you know, just directions to go for all of that.
That's amazing.
The, and yes, you're right.
For fertility for men and women, these things act as, um, hormone disruptors.
So the plastic bottles, the pots and pans in your house, all the things that you just mentioned with the the makeup, the hair stuff, all the things.
So there's so much overlap I feel like in what you're talking about, that translates into fertility.
Again, I always go back to our children and, and knowing for them as well.
What is their it's actually one in eight in America for fertility as well.
So when you mentioned that statistic about the breast cancer, I always say to people, if you're in a line in Starbucks and you see who's there, you know, keeping in mind that they are struggling with fertility or one in four is having having a miscarriage.
I didn't realize the same for breast cancer in those, uh, statistics.
But it makes sense with the hormone disruptors and all of these crazy chemicals that are sneaking their way into different ways that we live our daily life that we it helps just to clean it out If nothing else, you can say I've eliminated that as an option of what could be causing me to be sick.
Right.
Or just not feel my best.
I and you mentioned the the plastics, the BPAs, and the cookware, the the Teflon.
So the book also talks about that, has a chapter all about that as well.
And and, you know, that's something too.
I've eliminated, you know, I used to have all my storage containers were plastic, and I used to have, you know, all of my nonstick cookware that I didn't realize had potential chemicals that were harming us as we were cooking.
So I slowly the cookware, of course, because it's expensive, I slowly change that out.
Uh, I immediately try to get rid of all of my plastic containers for food storage, and I chose glass or because sometimes you just don't want something heavy and breakable.
There's clear silicone, medical grade silicone.
That's a great option as well that I have.
Same with little reusable sandwich bags.
We have the silicone ones on my kids aren't being sealed in little plastic unless they have a field trip, then they have to bring something that they can toss.
And the hardest part really is when you think about, I mean, I shop at, you know, whether it's Costco or Trader Joe's or Whole Foods or, you know, one of the big grocery stores, A lot of the prepackaged foods that we get there come in plastic.
And so it is really challenging to eliminate it 100%, but I feel like if I can at least get it out of the places I can within my home, I'm a lot better off than I was eight years ago before cancer.
Absolutely.
So I thank you for giving us a little bit of insight to your book.
That's super helpful because I think some people too love those types of books where you can drop in here and there.
Versus it has to be a a front to cover, front to end, uh, read.
Let's talk real quick about your retreat.
I love a good retreat.
So tell us how that if what's the the outline for your retreats and who intends who can attend? Is there anything that you would need to be as a a precursor, so to speak, to qualify to be there? Everyone, ladies only though.
So all women are welcome.
So, yes, a precursor, you must be female.
Okay.
But, yes.
So, uh, it's a ladies only retreat.
It is in the magical Red Mountains, uh, of Saint George, Utah.
And so red mountain spa and resort is the location.
And every day, it's four days three nights.
It's a very small intimate group.
I do have a couple more spots for our November dates on November 3 through the 2022, and then we'll be setting dates for next year as well.
And every day, for results, it's all inclusive.
So every day we do a a guided hike.
We work out together.
You can always choose alternative classes if you aren't interested in the classes that we've sort of chosen.
But there's everything from yoga and meditation to I lead a breath work uh, just for our private group.
Uh, there's a drumming class where you have these big men, these big balls, workout balls, and you drum, and you get this great cardio.
We have a rebounder workout that we do on a little mini trampoline.
I always make sure that everyone gets spot time.
So I include a fifty minute, you know, whether it's a facial or a massage that they want.
And then we have workshops.
So, basically, a couple hours every day, broken up in between our meals and are hanging out and spending a lot of great quality time together.
I give a lot of personalized recommendations.
And then I coach you through how to figure out where in your life you are challenged with your health goals, not meeting them, how we can get there.
And we do that together hand in hand literally.
So it's just a lot of fun.
I'm gonna dance party in my room.
It's like, it's a blast.
That is amazing.
I will say that there's nothing to that can substitute for being in person and building those relationships with people that have like minds at same goals, same track on your life.
So if that's something that sounds interesting to you, where can they find out more information about that? If you go to my Instagram at samantha Harris TV like television, it in the link in my bio, and then also samantha -harris.
com.
Well, thank you so much, Samantha, for being here.
I really appreciate sharing all those great nuggets of information to help everybody get a little healthier than they were before they started listening.
So until our pass crossed again, thanks again for being here.
Oh, I look forward to it.
And if anyone is interested in game shows, we just announced I don't know when this is gonna when you guys are listening to this because I know people listen to podcasts at all different times, but we just announced today as we're recording.
I'm the host of a brand new show on Game Show Network by the producers of who wants to be a millionaire called tug of words.
It's a really fun word play show.
So just going back to my dancing with the stars and entertainment tonight roots as a TV host, uh, but I love I'm so excited to share that news, but yes.
All the greatness of wellness is my my passion, and that's what I am doing of 99% of the other time.
Well, thank you for sharing that little sneak peek of what's coming.
That's pretty exciting.
Thanks again for being here.
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